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PostSubject: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:49 pm

During our reading of the novel All Quiet on the Western Front, you are going to learn a great deal about World War One. However, I would also like you to explore what is probably the definitive website on this cataclysmic time in world history. The website below is a multi-media approach to the war. It's filled with writings, photos, films, interviews, and the like.

Here's what I'd like you to do. Visit the website and just get yourself acquainted with aspects of this war. Pick and choose what interests you. You'll be able to see first-hand photographs of what trench warfare looked like. Moreover, you'll see how soldiers dressed and lived during this tumultuous time. There are links for the poetry written during this time. There are historical documents, maps, transcripts of interviews--simply put, there is a wealth of material.

After you have spent a little time on this website, post a reply here that tells your classmates about something you learned about World War One that you didn't know before.

We'll use your responses to this thread as discussion pieces during this unit.

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Website: http://www.firstworldwar.com



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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:06 pm

I learned that the bayonet was essentially useless in terms of close combat. This was surprising because I had always imagined soldiers with bayonets on their rifles charging across a field and stabbing (s?) their enemies if they got close. I also had never known that actually flamethrowers were used by the German army against the opposition. It was also interesting that this was the war in which the machine gun really started to develop.
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:24 pm

I found this website to be very informative about the war, one of the best I've seen. The vintage photographs were extraordinary; they gave you an up close look at what the war was like. While surveying the site I learned about the "War in the Air". I didn't know that aircraft use became accustomed during the war and new innovations for the aircrafts developed during this time.
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PostSubject: Congrats to Lanny   Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:36 pm

LanHuang wrote:
I learned that the bayonet was essentially useless in terms of close combat. This was surprising because I had always imagined soldiers with bayonets on their rifles charging across a field and stabbing (s?) their enemies if they got close. I also had never known that actually flamethrowers were used by the German army against the opposition. It was also interesting that this was the war in which the machine gun really started to develop.

Congratulations for being the first to post an idea on WWI based on a look at the website. Have fun exploring.

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PostSubject: Awesome   Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:37 pm

flavorflavia wrote:
I found this website to be very informative about the war, one of the best I've seen. The vintage photographs were extraordinary; they gave you an up close look at what the war was like. While surveying the site I learned about the "War in the Air". I didn't know that aircraft use became accustomed during the war and new innovations for the aircrafts developed during this time.


Flavia,

You're the second to post about WWI. That's wonderful. Did you check out some of the original propaganda posters that different countries used to get young men to join up? Fascinating stuff.

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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:46 pm

It was also amazing how many recruitment posters that they still have.
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:03 pm

I was so amazed at all of the pictures that they had on just about every topic you could think of. This website has a lot of stuff that I didn't even think about when talking of this war. I learned that animals played an important part in the war. The horses had to wear gas masks and there were dentists for them! I also had no idea that people brought dogs with them into the trenches.
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:28 pm

I was amazed to read about Hitler's service in World War I and how it shaped his view on the world.

"1914-1918 was, for Hitler and his Nazi henchmen, not only unfinished business, but a blueprint on how to conduct the titanic struggles of the future."
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:39 pm

I also noticed that in almost all of the propaganda posters I saw, the soldiers were smiling. This shows a sense of pride and courage, being ready to go to war. Unfortunately, we have to read about the horrible devastation of war in All Quiet on the Western Front.
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:48 pm

Woah!!! I was amazed to see that the Germans used religion in their propaganda. You have to see this!!!

http://www.firstworldwar.com/posters/images/pp_ger_08.jpg
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:16 pm

I was shocked that soldiers had free time while they were fighting in the trenches. The website says:

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Given that each side's front line was constantly under watch by snipers and look-outs during daylight, movement was logically restricted until night fell. Thus, once men had concluded their assigned tasks they were free to attend to more personal matters, such as the reading and writing of letters home.

Meals were also prepared. Sleep was snatched wherever possible - although it was seldom that men were allowed sufficient time to grab more than a few minutes rest before they were detailed to another task.

It surprised me that the soldiers would have leisure time to read and write letters, while they are in the middle of a World War. Additionally, I found it funny that British soldiers called cigarettes "coffin nails."
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PostSubject: Interesting Point   Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:25 pm

HomeboyPWalb wrote:
I also noticed that in almost all of the propaganda posters I saw, the soldiers were smiling. This shows a sense of pride and courage, being ready to go to war. Unfortunately, we have to read about the horrible devastation of war in All Quiet on the Western Front.

Hey Philip,

Why is it "unfortunate" that we have to read about the devastation of war. That's why it's called war. It's all about destruction and death. I'm sure that many felt patriotic and proud--until they saw the destruction up front. But then, that's one of the major themes in this powerful novel.

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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:37 pm

When looking up propaganda posters and ads made by different countries, there was a definite theme occuring. All the countries wanted people to either enlist or to give money and support the cause. With that, there were many posters urging citizens to be a patriot. There were of course varying themes in the posters due to the general change of culture, but they were almost all eyecatching dramatic posters that could cause bystanders to look and stare at the colors or designs. The pictures were drawn in varying extremes. Some were given a proud, graceful look that encouraged the young and folly to become a hero. Some were given a rugged, desperate look that encouraged older and more sensible men to help out their country. But nonetheless, all the posters showed some extreme to the war situation in order to induce feelings of pity in the rich or feelings of pride in the strong young men.
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:18 pm

I enjoyed looking at the Propaganda posters that they had shown their. They wern't subtle like ads we see now for the military. Many said "Join Now" or "Enlist Now". They also said that the men in the army were "Brave" and that every able bodied man should join.
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:47 pm

I play Call of Duty and i saw that some of the weapons are the same as the ones in Call of Duty and on the website. I found it interesting because the website was about WW1 and Call of Duty is about WW2. Some of the weapons i saw were the Browning Assault Rifle (BAR) for the U.S. was the same. It was the same model and didn'y change a bit. Also, the Luger for Germany was exactly the same as in Call of Duty. I saw the Lee-Enfield Rifle for the British which actually changed a little bit if i saw the picture correctly. I saw for the U.S. the Springfield rifle which actually in Call of Duty is a sniper instead of a rifle.
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:59 pm

I thought that the entire World War I site was really exciting to explore, but what I thought was most interesting was how the war actually started. I was really surprised that one simple terrorist attack sparked an entire world war. In my opinion, the global involvement was unnecessary. Just because Austria-Hungary and Serbia were at war, their allies didn't have to get involved in prying at old conflicts. I also thought it was really odd and interesting that Italy, a member of the triple-alliance along with Germany and Austria-Hungary, declared war against Germany and Austria. I think World War I really brought out the worst in every country.

I'm just speculating here, but I think that it was inevitable that Germany and Austria-Hungary would lose. Firstly, they were outnumbered by the allies. Secondly, the were surrounded on two fronts. On the edges where they weren't surrounded, they were enclosed by neutral countries that could be used as buffer zones for the allies. In my opinion, Austria-Hungary started by declaring war on Serbia, and they should not have. They really should have seen what they were about to get into.
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:22 pm

I didn't realize how all the countries where intertwined: they all had ties to Serbia or Austria-Hungary. In one case, Russia was in treaty with Serbia, France was bound to Russia, Great Britain and the United States was in the Allies with France. This meant four countries were bound to fight in a war that did not even apply to them. I did not learn much about the First World War in school and an excited to broaden my view.
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PostSubject: WWI web site comments   Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:37 pm

I checked out the section on "War in the Air", it was pretty fascinating. I thought it was awesome how Louis Strange learned how to fly in about three hours- impressive! He influenced the aircraft designers to ensure that there was more stability.

I loved how the General Foch guy was saying "aviation is a good sport, but for the army it is useless" and then a huge part of World War I all went on in the sky- proves him wrong! Razz

Overall I thought the site was really interesting- it really got into detail. I especially loved that it was all in sections so that you don't get confused and you get to pick what you want to read. I thought it was great and that it will help me understand the book better now that I now what's going on, War wise. Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:45 pm

THis website was VERY informative to me while I was checking it out. I have to admit, I didn't really know alot about the first World War...actually i didn't really know anything. After reading this website I know alot more but still not enough.I learned that the spark of the war was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne, in Sarajevo on 28 June 1914. Ferdinand's death at the hands of the Black Hand, whick is a Serbian nationalist secret society, set series of events that culminated in the world's first global war. Exclamation
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PostSubject: Poison Gas   Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:48 pm

I liked learning about poison gas, its strategic values, and the actual gasses used. I learned that at one point, the German's used chlorine gas to make a hole in the Allied line 4 miles wide, and, had they anticipated this, would've decimated the British line. It was also interesting to learn about the different gasses that were used, including chlorine, phosgene, and mustard gas (which is still popular today as riot control). It was also informative to learn about the peventative measures taken againt gas poisoning. Towards the end, it became an ineffective measure of attack for either the allied forces, or the Germans.
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PostSubject: Reply to last posts   Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:35 pm

@Jacqueleeny
In the words of Yoda
"Size matters not"
It does not matter who had more bases, though number of troops can indeed affect an outcome, but Germany had much in the way of that. People loved to enroll. I'm not trying to be cruel here, but it delves much deeper than that. First of all, Austria-Hungary was knew what they were getting into. Serbia has never been a very stable country, breaking free of Russia/USSR/Soviet Union, and then being sucked back in, only to break free again. There militia is damaged every time the try to break free, and they lack not only in troops, but in population itself. True, there need not be any involvment from other countries but direct allies of the Austria-Hungary and Serbia. Now there was already great tension between Germany and France, so it became Hungary-Austria/Germany vs. Serbia-Russia/France. france threatened war with italy, so Italy took refuge in an alliance with Germany, prompting Britain to come to the aid of France.

Now consider this, Israel is a small country correct? Surrounded by many hostile Arab nations, and neutral nations. Though it is small, it trains its military amazing well. When they were given the Palestinian land, the Palestines became hostile. Israel ahs kept them and their allies Iran, Jordan, Lebanon at bay. When they all attacked at once, Israel seemed doomed, do you know how long it took Israel to win 6 DAYS. Size matters not, nor does number of forts.

@Dylan
Of course they are the same guns. Many of them ave only received minor upgrades. The Ak-47 has been around since 1949, and it ahs only been impproved upon, but ahs kept the same name.
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:15 pm

I didn't realize how much food meant to the war. In a lot of propaganda posters for the U.S. they mentioned food.

An interesting fact about my family is that my great grandfather was a Polish general in WWI.

If you type in Dreszer or Rudolf Dreszer on Google there is picture of my great grandfather.
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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:26 pm

I really found this website interesting. I especialy liked the article about how World War I affected Adolf Hitler. I never knew that someone actually had the chance to kill him. It is weird the way things turn out sometimes. I also enjoyed the explaination about all the allies. I never knew that countries like Honduras and China severed ties with Germany and declared war with Germany. World War I was really a world war - even countries in South America and Africa were invovled. I also thought that it was funny that Turkey reentered into the war the day before it ended.
I also noticed that Italy and Japan allied with Britian and the U.S. in this war. Funny how things can change in just 30 years. Great website.
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PostSubject: Fabulous!   Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:10 pm

Hey folks,

These are fabulous responses on the WWI site. Great work to all of you who have posted. Bravo.

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PostSubject: Re: POST: Discovering WWI and Reporting Back (closes 10/6)   Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:30 pm

I'm big on music, so when I came along the page that had all the types of music during WWI, I was hooked. I know this sounds lame, but that type of music could bascially cheer anyone up and I always feel like getting up and dancing around. It was cool to see how the music changed throughout the war. And although the quality isn't so good, the vintage videos were amazing. I mean, where else can a kid see footage like this? Pretty much nowhere.

I also found the section about poisonous gas quite interesting. I always thought the Germans were the first to use it, but apparently the French were and that is pretty cool, along with the other information. Trust me, I'm not big on violence and dying, but something about this webpage caught my interest.

Overall, I think more people should know about this website.
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